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Murder on the Dance floor (Beta version)

…Well that didn’t go well. I had hoped to have completed Hoihoi by now in time for Christmas but I had a little… mishap. I’m still pretty sure that I will be able to finish her in time for next weeks post and unveiling, in fact, she’s pretty far along but not at a stage where I want to show it off yet. So instead, I started doing something which I had planned to do for a while.

You may remember that I showed of Saber lily back on my november purchase post (well, the part which didn’t include KOSMOS and my Knight of Gold). Well, I thought that it was time for her to shine. However, this is NOT a figure review. There are plenty of those already and I don’t want to add to the pile. Feel free to check out reviews from Tier, Tommy, Meronpan, and Radiant if you want a proper review of the figure but I’m doing something different.

Perhaps it was because I essentially bought her by accident (I preordered her during the initial hype and then promptly forgot about her until I got a shipping notice from HLJ) but I never felt that attached to this particular figure. I’m also with Tommy when he said in his review that the figure is decent but not great. It’s pose makes it only suitable for viewing at certain angles and it’s not as dynamic as you would initially think. But enough about that, what I wanted to do was inspired by a post I saw on the FG boards. After seeing that and with my general apathy towards the figure, I decided to see if I could make her a little cast off!
What follows are the trials and steps I took to remove the armour and skirt from Saber. Be warned that some of these pics may be considered by some Figure collectors as “Guro.”

Don’t say I didn’t warn you.

First up were the tools, or rather, just the 1 tool. My sculpting tool which I use mostly for applying putty and scraping the excess off gaps and pinholes. Reycal was seen posing with it a few weeks ago. The knife isn’t too sharp but it’s enough to get under certain areas and cut with some pressure. it’s also good for when you want to apply leverage to force parts apart. I did use my modelling knife for a few things but I tried to avoid using it as the blade is easily snapped and it’s too sharp so you might end up cutting more than you wanted.

Anyway, I first tried removing the side armours. They actually came off with no problems at all seeing as they weren’t really connected to anything. I removed 1 but kept the other in place as it seemed pointless to put the effort in if it wasn’t going to even be in the way.
The first tricky part was removing the skirt which the armour is on. The See-through white one!

A little bit of effort with the tools allowed me to lift up the skirt somewhat. You can see indents where the parts connect so you can go back to what it was if you really wanted to…

Most of the glue holding the part was in the back. It took a fair bit of elbow grease to finally yank the part off but because the part was so flexible, I was never afraid of it breaking. The Glue used appears to be a standard strong hold glue which dries to a clear finish, so PVA or something similar. The properties of the glue also suggest PVA. It’s kinda stretchy if you just try to pull the parts apart. It doesn’t break cleanly like superglue or epoxy.

Once one side was off, the other was a piece of cake. The parts all have little indents in them so they will fit together nicely, tho glue will probably be needed again if you want to keep them that way.

Next up is the chest armour. By far the easiest part to remove. If you look closely at the connection beween the chestplate and the right side (Saber’s right, not yours) you should be able to see a small gap compared to her left side. That’s where they glued it in place. One knife down the hole and a little leverage later and…

The armour almost falls off by itself! There’s a little glue on the left breast and on the back, but they give pretty easily.

And so, we successfully removed all the armour. Unfortunately, that’s about all there is in terms of the easy bits. Removing the 2 skirt parts was exceptionally difficult and took a considerable amount of effort!
Saber really tried her best to preserve her modesty but she never really stood a chance!!!

This was pretty much the only time I broke out the modelling knife. There was an exceptional amount of glue between the lower and upper body sections so I had to use the knife to cut a lot of it in order to gain the leverage needed to separate the 2.

Eventually, I managed to separate the top half from the lower section. The front area was easy but the sides were a nightmare. Even when I knew that the bond had given in, the back was still glued tightly, which made it awkward to lift the part over the stump.
There was also a heavier price to pay as well…

I got a little overzealous with my attempts at separating the 2 parts and snapped off saber’s left leg. Eduardo has nothing on this (OK, maybe he did)!!!

All was not lost tho, as the break was very clean so I put a brass rod into the leg for support (and found what appeared to be an air bubble in there) and glued the parts together again. (almost) as good as new!

Just need to paint it over a little and nobody will know… The issue is easily avoided if one is just a little more careful than I was, but I was seriously getting pissed off at the lack of progress at the time (I had been at it for around 1/2 hr).

But even with the parts separated, there was no rest for the wicked, because even the skirts were glued to the stump. They were also glued to 3 separate points on the legs as well, but those came undone while I was trying to take off the upper body. I managed to put a crack on the top layer skirt while removing it but it’s no biggie. The lower skirt was pretty flexible so I was really able to give it some oomph when taking it off.

And here are all the parts laid out. The right arm can also come off but I didn’t see any benefits in doing that at this point. There’s still some excess glue in the areas which were stuck together but they can be easily removed with a knife. The Fate/ unlimited code logo can also be taken off with ease.

but now for some fun!

Firstly, to set some minds at ease, you can still put the parts in their original place and get Saber looking somewhat like her old self. She’s be even closer if you used glue!

And with the lowest skirt removed, Saber flashes a glimpse of panties and a lot of thigh!! Would Zettai Ryouiki fans like this?

I don’t think this shot needs a caption…

Eventually, I plan to return to Saber and give her a lick of paint to tidy things up and make the cast off work a little better, but I don’t know when that will be.
For those of you who are brave/foolish enough to want to give it a try, I offer these words of advice:

  • Don’t use a sharp knife unless absolutely necessary. A strong tool which gives plenty of leverage is much better
  • If the part bends a little, it’ll bend a lot. If it doesn’t bend, then don’t try!
  • Don’t be afraid of putting in a little elbow grease into the mix when the situation calls for it.
  • It may sound obvious but this is pretty much a one shot deal. You can reverse the process if you wish by gluing the parts back together but if you want to retain the ability to remove the parts, then the figure won’t be quite as strong as it was as the parts won’t hold as well.
  • When removing the top half, watch out for the hair! It hurts when it digs into your hand!!!!

Somehow, I doubt that I will be able to sell her to anyone now. Tainted goods and all that.
In any case, it’s back to Hoihoi now!!

  • http://openthetoy.blogspot.com/ LEon

    hat off for what you have done. I guess I don’t have the experience and the guts to do something like that on such an ex and good looking figure.

  • http://www.chewyee.com BNN

    I’m going insane upon seeing this post!

    Anyway perhaps you can try this as well!
    http://tomopop.com/a-saber-lily-mod-that-s-sure-to-drop-your-jaw-9941.phtml

  • http://radiantdreamer.wordpress.com radiant

    AAAAAA! AAAAAAAGH!!! AAAAAAAAGH!!!!!

    okay, now that that’s out of the way… that loli-mod looks pretty sweet. Do you intend to do that?
    BNN’s link is pretty awesome too. If I had the skills, I’d do that, but I guess photoshop will have to do. ^^

  • http://lookingglass.kokidokom.net gundamjehutykai

    Thanks.
    Compared to some of my other purchases, Saber Lily isn’t actually that expensive! My GK often go for around 16,000 yen or so which is double what I paid for Saber. I guess I work on a slightly different scale because of that.

  • http://lookingglass.kokidokom.net gundamjehutykai

    The reactions from yourself and BNN were more in line with what I was expecting. I was actually asked over at Figure.fm why I would do this and I wrote a lengthy(ish) post basically saying “because I can”

    As for the future ideas, I haven’t really got any. I was just going to keep the colourscheme the same but I’m sure I could pull off a saber lily alter in a similar style to the link above but it’s still a ways off yet and I’m open to ideas, so long as I don’t have to pay a hefty sum to do it.

  • http://tsuki-board/lenneth lenneth

    congrats on teh new purchase. Mines still in the box. I got her halfway out but then when I saw how perfectly packaged she was up I put her back in. Maybe next time I’ll get further!

  • http://theinfernoproject.com Tommy

    LOL, you should post the destruction part on figure.fm to get some reactions…if you haven’t already done so.

    Title it “My hate for Saber Lily”

  • http://lookingglass.kokidokom.net gundamjehutykai

    that’s a little harsh. I don’t exactly hate her afterall, but I did post it up on figure.fm, under “Saber Lily, with a twist”

    Seemed to get various responses as well, some praised me for doing it, while others just asked why? Overall, I think people just want to see me do something with her because they don’t have the guts to. Afterall, 8,000 yen is a lot to them, but it’s on the cheap end of the scale for me! Damn GK mark up prices…

  • http://lookingglass.kokidokom.net gundamjehutykai

    Thanks. I actually got her back in mid october but since then, I took her out once for a photo for my November loot post and that was about it.
    After that she was just sitting there in her box. I had thought about doing the cast off idea for a while since I saw the job done on the FG board but I was just distracted by other things. Just managed to get a start on it by finding a little time between my other 2 current projects. Don’t think I’ll be revisiting Saber Lily for a little while now.

  • http://chubbybots.wordpress.com chubbybots

    Salutes ^^ Instant respect for daring to do this! Can’t imagine doing this to my nendos haha…

    And I went back to your old blog and saw the post on your room….man your room is amazing! Its like a figure workshop! :D

  • http://lookingglass.kokidokom.net gundamjehutykai

    Funny you should say that. Danny Choo said the same thing! Guess that’s how I got my room into the otacool book, not that it’s really anything to brag about.
    But you both got it pretty spot on. It is a workshop. I do all my figure work there so saber was taken apart on that desk and HoiHoi is also having her changes made there too. It’s kinda evolved quickly to that simply cos I need everything to be easily within reach when I start doing stuff!

  • http://wawawawasuremono.com meronpan

    wow, awesome project! ^^ is it just me or does her body look a little small when you get her out of that bulky outfit? ^^; maybe it’s just the angle.

    as always envious of your skills and workshop… wish i had the ability to fix a snapped limb like that :P

  • http://lookingglass.kokidokom.net gundamjehutykai

    Ah, but then I doubt that you would find yourself in a position where you would need to fix a snapped limb. I know which one I would prefer!

    Actually her body looks fine when you take off the chest armour. It’s just that the armour looks bulky cos it’s basically like putting a bowl on sabers chest, leaving a massive gap between the 2. (and would provide almost zero protection as it would buckle instantly)

  • lee

    oh god why do this to the lovely saber lily?! christmas is coming isn’t it? save her for the poor lol

    and I always thought saber is this little girl with flat chest and I’ve yet to see any saber with pointy boobs, just how old is she suppose to be anyways?

  • http://lookingglass.kokidokom.net gundamjehutykai

    Aside from the obvious “over a few thousand years old?” line? I’d probably say that she’s around sixt… I mean 21. All eroge characters are over 21 years of age and so it’s ok to go through the steps of “mana replenishment.” Yeah…

    And I’m not the charitable type, Sorry to say, so with a few tweaks, maybe I’ll sell her on to not so poor and advertise the “extra features”… or not.

  • lee

    lol thought most eroge chars are only 18..but no seriously I thought she was like 15 or something considering that she looks like a kid and with zero chest.

    well I imagine you can get away with it, depending on the next steps you take to mod/murder her.

  • http://lookingglass.kokidokom.net gundamjehutykai

    Well, We have to cater to the american audience, just in case… And saber doesn’t have a completely flat chest, it’s just not so impressive when you look at rider, or sakura, or Caster, or Taiga… Well, at least she beats Illya and who knows who would come out on top if she took on Rin…

    At the moment, I’m leaning towards keeping the colourscheme and just tidying up the parts in general. I actually really like the armourless look. tho I don’t know if I want to keep just the top skirt or make it look a little less “risky”

  • lee

    in some states I guess, over here in california 18 is good for strip club, but 21 for alcohol, which is quite retarded as I’m old enough to get into casino but only as far as the arcade room, I’m a grown man for cry out loud..cough, anyways, I vote for Rin with the bigger chest since her body is more stretched out than saber and its harder to show, how old is illya, 4?

    and is it possible to take her “inner armor” off as well? I wanna see some action lol

  • Bang. . .

    Looks a lot like the WF exclusive at the end.^^

  • http://lookingglass.kokidokom.net gundamjehutykai

    Yup, a few people have noted the similarity. Just a few changes to the legs and forearms.

    But people will still buy the exclusive regardless, tho it’s not quite a WF exclusive, there will be a mail order option but you won’t get the figure till much later.